Merci à Irna, même si elle n'y est pour rien dans prendre position sur cette sage...
Well, we all knew that this would blow up quickly once the slides were out… or I should say a poor copy of one of the slides were out. As we’ve all seen by now, that image is not very clear, it doesn’t have much in the way of color, and it provides us little in the way of information. Tom Carey told me yesterday that the slide is much clearer than that very poor image we have.
Today, that is February 10, Gilles Fernandez provided a photograph with “good rezolution [sorry, but I wanted to accurately report what Gilles had said though my first thought was to correct the spelling but should note that Gilles has a very good grasp of English].” He provided a link that shows a small body that looks similar to that in the slide:5/02/roswell-slides-update-february-10-today.html
Dernière édition par Rosetta le 12/02/15, 06:30 pm, édité 1 fois (Raison : Intervention de Rosetta)
Sur les ballons MOGUL : http://bourdais.blogspot.fr/2009/08/retour-sur-limposture-des-ballons-mogul.html
C'est le pied !PhD Smith a écrit: Je confirme, c'est vers 3 min. 30 de la vidéo. C'est ça la recherche ufologique
(Quelque chose comme, "L'enfer a probablement gelé, car pour une fois je suis d'accord avec Gilles").David Rudiak a écrit:Hell has probably frozen over, because for once I agree with Gilles.
Kevin Randle se réjouissant d'un gars de plus dans la "Dream Team" a écrit:Rudiak (seen here at the International UFO Museum in Roswell, photo courtesy of Tom Carey) is one of the experts (and maybe only expert) about what happened in Ramey’s office on July 8, 1947. He wrote to me that, “I've reconstructed the debris in a computer ray-tracer and proven there is only one radar target there and probably one balloon (or what would fit in shoe box), in other words NOT what you would expect from a multi-balloon, multi-target Mogul but perfectly consistent with Ramey and Newton's description of a singular balloon/target and Dubose/Marcel's substituted weather balloon.”
He also said, “Another of my Roswell specialties are my various histories of the period. I have expertise in how the story was reported in numerous news outlets, not just a few. I think I have compiled the most extensive collection of U.S. and international Roswell stories anywhere. These stories present many angles and contradictions that just a few articles do not provide and tell us a lot about how the cover-up was handled. E.g., I have found only two or three newspapers out of hundreds carrying a rare AP sub-version quoting Sheriff Wilcox declining to answer further questions about the "disc" saying he was ‘working with those fellows at the base.’ That I consider to be very telling and corroboration for what his family was telling us decades later. Why are Marcel, Brazel, Wilcox, Ramey, and the press release telling sometimes very different stories, often contradicting the balloon story? Why do the AP, UP, and RDR versions of the press release differ in many details?”
David’s expertise isn’t limited to just the Roswell case, but includes the history of the time. He emailed me that, “And I think I may have the most extensive collection of UFO reports from the area, which I compiled from reviewing every regional paper I could lay my hands on. This demonstrates that Roswell didn't happen in a vacuum, which may have prompted Ramey, Kalberer, and White Sands commander Turner debunking the saucers over a week before Roswell blew up. One very interesting news article I have from a Las Cruces newspaper recounts how on the night of July 8 a fireball steaking out of the south over the Organ mountains broke up, followed by search lights from White Sands Proving Grounds sweeping the sky afterward for an indefinite period of time.”
He, along with Brad Sparks, reworked the mathematics of the Mogul flight number 4, which the skeptics claim is responsible for the debris, showing that it did not come nearly as close as Charles Moore, a Mogul engineer, suggested. (I’ll point out here the Moore’s calculations couldn’t bring the balloon array closer than seventeen miles.) Rudiak’s figures suggested that the balloon array launched from Alamogordo wouldn’t have come as close as Moore suggested. More importantly, it appears that there was no flight number 4.
Don, appelons-le par son prénom, nous sommes aux USA que diable ! a écrit:Anthony Bragalia has said that the image is highly distorted with respect to the original. Moreover, your estimation has been made in a hurry.
On the contrary, Kodachrome investigators (let's call them that way) have analized TWO images on high resolution, during months or maybe years. You have analyzed just one image, extremely low quality, and which is (most probably) geometrically distorted.
At this time, the kodachrome investigators' estimation should still be more accurate than yours (or David's).
Elles étaient à part soi-disant.PhD Smith a écrit:Les fameuses diapositives de l'alienigina comment on dit en espagnol sortent bien d'une boîte avec d'autres diapositives, classées dans l'ordre de la pellicule.
Paris... 200 momies au musée de l'homme, 63 momies au muséum d'histoire naturelle...Il suffirait d'examiner le reste du lot pour voir quel lieu touristique les photographes ont visité. Le reportage de WGN dit que le couple était de grands voyageurs.
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